tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post301325888008720202..comments2024-02-13T03:39:18.616-05:00Comments on News 8 Weather Blog: WHAT WILL DECEMBER BRING?News 8 Weatherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10107233504909304176noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-61003682267981017392012-12-02T20:34:51.848-05:002012-12-02T20:34:51.848-05:00Thanks I'll have to check it out.
AndyThanks I'll have to check it out. <br />Andy<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-54930071304858808442012-12-02T20:02:57.391-05:002012-12-02T20:02:57.391-05:00I read about on wxrisk.comI read about on wxrisk.comChris Sodus Ptnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-74959493058409619312012-12-02T19:45:46.293-05:002012-12-02T19:45:46.293-05:00I sure hope you're right Chris. Just curious w...I sure hope you're right Chris. Just curious where do you get that Siberia snow pack data? <br /><br />Thanks <br />Andy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-78903627497795617782012-12-02T17:56:43.022-05:002012-12-02T17:56:43.022-05:00Good stuff lets hope it workes out. I like the col...Good stuff lets hope it workes out. I like the cold almost as much as the snow.Hamlin Plowernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-59081085241454049872012-12-02T10:24:51.076-05:002012-12-02T10:24:51.076-05:00The October snowpack in Siberia was above average,...The October snowpack in Siberia was above average, which has a 90% correlation with cold and snowy winter weather in the eastern US. Last year, the SIberian snowpack in Oct. was significantly below average. A deep snowpack has already accumulated in much of the Arctic, even far into southern Canada. This helps to enhance cold air outbreaks in the US. Snow breeds snow, cold breeds cold. Last year, most of Canada had little snow and cold so when fronts did come through they were weak. There was no blocking pattern on this side of the world. The NAO and AO have been trending negative for months.<br /><br />That's why I think this winter will be at least average in terms of snow and cold. I don't know about storm track, but as a snowmobiler with a camp off the east end of the Lake, I am not as interested in that anyway. The new CFS model, which incorporates many ensemble runs, not just its own, agrees with a mid-December cool down, so does the GFS and Euro. Every meteorologist is talking about a mid-month cool down as well. None of this happened last year. Last year, winter weather lovers were hanging their hats on the GFS, which kept predicting a drop in temps and the PV heading east every run, 10-15 days out, and it never happened. The Euro never showed that.<br /><br />All that being said, who really knows what is going to happen? I don't. All I can do is look at the existing evidence and it points to a normal winter at minimum. I do not predict that is going to happen, but I hope it does. No one can tell if the humungous Omega block in the Bering Sea is going to break down like it should, and shift all of that building cold air north of us down onto us. If it doesn't move, that Omega block is going to give AK another brutal winter. Things just look a lot different than last year, not sure what it will materialize into, but I can say with SOME confidence that this winter will not be like last year.Chris, Sodus Ptnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-67650856011296972892012-12-02T05:25:52.064-05:002012-12-02T05:25:52.064-05:00Mmmmm, Interesting. The NWS agrees with us:
TAKIN...Mmmmm, Interesting. The NWS agrees with us:<br /><br />TAKING ALL OF THIS INTO ACCOUNT...TEMPERATURES DURING THE NEXT TWO<br />WEEKS ARE MORE LIKELY TO AVERAGE AT OR ABOVE NORMAL...WITH ONLY THE<br />OCCASIONAL INTRUSION OF SEASONABLY COLD AIR. ANY SUCH COLD SHOT WILL<br />LIKELY GIVE WAY TO PACIFIC WARMING WITHIN A COUPLE DAYS. FOR WHAT<br />ITS WORTH...THE CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER IS ALSO FAVORING A HIGHER<br />CHANCE FOR ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES DURING THIS PERIOD.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-5126682523826972612012-12-02T05:17:13.185-05:002012-12-02T05:17:13.185-05:00Since when is an opinion negative. We are using wh...Since when is an opinion negative. We are using what we know about Meteorology to give an educated opinion. That is what a blog is for. We are not calling you a troll because you are giving an opinion. You are just being childish. I respect your opinion and I hope you are right because I love snow. I just do not see the pattern you are referring to coming to reality in December. That is NOT being negative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-38368097434039341082012-12-01T22:37:25.279-05:002012-12-01T22:37:25.279-05:00You two are BEYOND ridiculous and your persistent ...You two are BEYOND ridiculous and your persistent negative attitude is both infuriating and pathetic. I'm about ready to write both of you off as trolls, which honestly I should have done weeks ago. Of course none of what I've said up to this point will matter, because you will continue to be negative until we eventually DO get a nice winter pattern, and even then you will likely continue to complain.<br /><br />500 mb ensembles and NCEP teleconnection ensembles both currently support a colder pattern developing by mid month. That is subject to change over the next week or so, but as of now signs seem to be building towards colder weather by the middle of December. End of story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-51368637231466974142012-12-01T21:41:25.559-05:002012-12-01T21:41:25.559-05:00Again, I agree with Andrew. You are right on buddy...Again, I agree with Andrew. You are right on buddy. In December all storms will go to our West and we will be on the warm side. We will get briefly colder after the cold front passes before the next storm moves to our West and pumps mild air into our region. Next week looks mild the whole week accept for maybe Thursday and then it warms up again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-73269026452438484122012-12-01T21:26:40.654-05:002012-12-01T21:26:40.654-05:00Hamlin my friend I always blog what I say and say ...Hamlin my friend I always blog what I say and say what I blog. Also, I think you have just discussed the weather with my 4 year old attitude with your post? And you do not know the future or how to forecast it? "Winter might flex her muscles in the next few weeks"? " Looks more promising each day"? Sounds like you may think you do know the future or how to forecast it? Call me crazy I just go by the things you post. Yours respectfully Anonymous ( not). Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-40135308952837100522012-12-01T21:02:36.021-05:002012-12-01T21:02:36.021-05:00Andrew, nice to see you finally use your real blog...Andrew, nice to see you finally use your real blog name and not just Anonymous when blogging. <br /><br />Its never never land, not fantasy land. Maybe you should come and visit Peter Pan and myself. You have to leave your poor attitude and way over confident forecasting abillity at home. We will all have to wait and see what winter will bring. I will be happy either way. I am not going to discuss the weather with you your 4 year old attitude is too much for me to handle. Cheer up alittle and stop acting like you know the future or how to forecast it, I sure dont.(Hamlin)Fantasy Land Plowernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-57924093811097702892012-12-01T20:15:51.142-05:002012-12-01T20:15:51.142-05:00Not sure what Chris and Hamlin are looking at with...Not sure what Chris and Hamlin are looking at with the weather data? All things show the in 7-10 days from now any storm we get will be wet not white. You guys are just so hopeful and make up stuff that is from fantasy land. Just wait and see minimal storms and snow in December above average temps and the rest of the winter will mirror last year. I have been on record and continue to support my data and predictions. Please watch my winter weather forecast that I posted three weeks ago. Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-4616997279069123392012-12-01T18:06:32.589-05:002012-12-01T18:06:32.589-05:00Warm weather fans might want to take advantage of ...Warm weather fans might want to take advantage of tomorrow through Tuesday mornings weather. Winter fans dont worry winter might flex her muscle's in the next few weeks. She is going to stretch alittle next week before she may really lets loose. Looking more promising every day.Hamlin Plowernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-63216512209548426612012-12-01T17:17:49.996-05:002012-12-01T17:17:49.996-05:00Bit on that a week ago.. I'm going to wait thi...Bit on that a week ago.. I'm going to wait this time before getting excited..lol.Caledonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-1783915604717335412012-12-01T17:01:55.166-05:002012-12-01T17:01:55.166-05:00Thankyou, now I can look it up.Thankyou, now I can look it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-1249410564652557892012-12-01T14:36:02.623-05:002012-12-01T14:36:02.623-05:00Oops I mean weather pattern over the EASTERN Pacif...Oops I mean weather pattern over the EASTERN Pacific. It is causing our air to come from the Pacific instead of the Arctic right now. I think PNA stands for Pacific - North American Oscillation.Chris Sodus ptnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-46470574310026915262012-12-01T14:32:45.540-05:002012-12-01T14:32:45.540-05:00Its a weather pattern over the western Pacific. I...Its a weather pattern over the western Pacific. It features high pressure on one side, low pressure on the other. It influences weather in the rest of North America by altering jet stream flows. Right now, it is causing a mostly zonal flow for us, and big storms out west as the low pressure side is off the coast of CA right now. <br /><br />Someone add or correct anything if necessary.Chris Sodus Ptnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-71183513358707511452012-12-01T13:55:01.652-05:002012-12-01T13:55:01.652-05:00What do you mean by Massive +PNA.What do you mean by Massive +PNA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-70208849521739867852012-12-01T13:42:31.544-05:002012-12-01T13:42:31.544-05:00Anyone else see the MASSIVE +PNA a week from now o...Anyone else see the MASSIVE +PNA a week from now on the GFS expanding enough to force the Polar Vortex over Canada down into the midwest? Looks like it could create some storms with a track right through here.Chris, Sodus Ptnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-22968219568387569222012-12-01T10:55:51.113-05:002012-12-01T10:55:51.113-05:00I'll take it now too. Average high is still ar...I'll take it now too. Average high is still around 40 I think. Hurts my feelings more when it is 57 degrees in January.Caledonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-21412125165540664982012-12-01T08:50:53.182-05:002012-12-01T08:50:53.182-05:00Dusting in Hamlin is better than nothing. It makes...Dusting in Hamlin is better than nothing. It makes it look and feel like winter. Models and NAO,AO predictions are still suggesting conditions more favorable for snow and cold after this week, heading towards the end of the month. I will take the warm snowless weather in the begining of the season all the time.Hamlin plowernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-31359558096368672112012-12-01T04:50:12.778-05:002012-12-01T04:50:12.778-05:00We got a dusting last night. Pathetic.We got a dusting last night. Pathetic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-37126312900755351182012-11-30T21:06:42.987-05:002012-11-30T21:06:42.987-05:00Great to see some snow on the ground!!!Great to see some snow on the ground!!!Weatherguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-35169966924810483582012-11-30T19:38:21.369-05:002012-11-30T19:38:21.369-05:00Day 10 Euro ensemble mean has that Bering Sea Omeg...Day 10 Euro ensemble mean has that Bering Sea Omega block breaking down. Is it rushing things?Caledonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5793508672957135735.post-38302809588548915972012-11-30T17:57:28.698-05:002012-11-30T17:57:28.698-05:00My thoughts exactly. I dont think there is as much...My thoughts exactly. I dont think there is as much complaining on a Buffalo Bills blog page. They have been in a drought lasting over a decade. Not just one season and month.Hamlin Hopefull Plowernoreply@blogger.com